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		<title>By: End of the Year Inspiration for a Successful 2012 &#124; Enemy of Debt: Where Behavior Meets Reality</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2008/07/bankruptcy-the-morning-after-pill-of-personal-finance/#comment-18883</link>
		<dc:creator>End of the Year Inspiration for a Successful 2012 &#124; Enemy of Debt: Where Behavior Meets Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of course speaking of bankruptcy, something I&#8217;ve refered to as the morning after pill of personal finance. I&#8217;ve known people with much less debt claim they had no other way out while Travis and his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brad Chaffee</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2008/07/bankruptcy-the-morning-after-pill-of-personal-finance/#comment-7545</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Chaffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 00:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line fgreen, is that having your lights on and a roof over your head SHOULD be more important than paying your creditors. It is completely backwards to think that your creditors should be paid while you sit in the dark cold/hot house, without hot water, refrigeration, etc.  
 
To answer your question. If a creditor wants to sue you because you can\&#039;t make the minimum payment then so be it. You shouldn\&#039;t be FORCED into paying something you don\&#039;t have simply because you made some bad financial mistakes. Your family comes first. Secondly, garnishment doesn\&#039;t just happen. Usually you are sued and then a long process starts to collect. When that process fails, then the creditor will usually decide to \&quot;execute\&quot; on the judgment. Even that is a process and the way I teach people to handle that is by using the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.self-reliance-works.com/2009/12/dealing-with-creditors-using-the-pro-rata-method/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pro-Rata Method&lt;/a&gt;. (I wrote this article on the self reliance exchange explaining the process) A creditor will generally not execute on a judgment, or even try to, if the person owing them money is paying them something---even IF it is not the minimum amount they would like to receive.  
 
Also if someone files bankruptcy, and they owe less than even $100,000, they are taking it lightly. In which case, they aren\&#039;t filing because they can\&#039;t pay, they are filing because they don\&#039;t want to pay. They are simply taking the easy way out that requires NO WORK or sacrifice from them to resolve the debt. 
 
The only time I think bankruptcy is an option is when someone owes millions of dollars (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2010/02/feeling-like-you-are-bankrupt-is-different-than-actually-being-bankrupt/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;or they are TRULY bankrupt&lt;/a&gt;), or a creditor does execute on a judgment forcing the borrower to protect the income that provides for their family. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line fgreen, is that having your lights on and a roof over your head SHOULD be more important than paying your creditors. It is completely backwards to think that your creditors should be paid while you sit in the dark cold/hot house, without hot water, refrigeration, etc.  </p>
<p>To answer your question. If a creditor wants to sue you because you can\&#8217;t make the minimum payment then so be it. You shouldn\&#8217;t be FORCED into paying something you don\&#8217;t have simply because you made some bad financial mistakes. Your family comes first. Secondly, garnishment doesn\&#8217;t just happen. Usually you are sued and then a long process starts to collect. When that process fails, then the creditor will usually decide to \&#8221;execute\&#8221; on the judgment. Even that is a process and the way I teach people to handle that is by using the <a href="http://www.self-reliance-works.com/2009/12/dealing-with-creditors-using-the-pro-rata-method/" rel="nofollow">Pro-Rata Method</a>. (I wrote this article on the self reliance exchange explaining the process) A creditor will generally not execute on a judgment, or even try to, if the person owing them money is paying them something&#8212;even IF it is not the minimum amount they would like to receive.  </p>
<p>Also if someone files bankruptcy, and they owe less than even $100,000, they are taking it lightly. In which case, they aren\&#8217;t filing because they can\&#8217;t pay, they are filing because they don\&#8217;t want to pay. They are simply taking the easy way out that requires NO WORK or sacrifice from them to resolve the debt. </p>
<p>The only time I think bankruptcy is an option is when someone owes millions of dollars (<a href="http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2010/02/feeling-like-you-are-bankrupt-is-different-than-actually-being-bankrupt/" rel="nofollow">or they are TRULY bankrupt</a>), or a creditor does execute on a judgment forcing the borrower to protect the income that provides for their family.</p>
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		<title>By: fgreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>fgreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 00:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bankruptcy is not easy and many don&#039;t take it lightly.  I notice how you say take care of the walls first and do credit last.    What do you do when you can&#039;t make the minimum payment and the creditors won&#039;t take less than and threaten to garnish your wages?  In the past, I have done the opposite, make sure all creditors have at least their mins and let the utilities go since they don&#039;t shut you off right away. 
 
I can see the lure into filing bankruptcy in order to keep from the embarrassment of having wages seized, especially if you work in the dept that handles that.  I would be mortified if a wage garnishment came across my co-workers desk for me.  My company isn&#039;t too keen on finance people with bad credit and I could possibly lose my job if that was to happen to me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bankruptcy is not easy and many don&#8217;t take it lightly.  I notice how you say take care of the walls first and do credit last.    What do you do when you can&#8217;t make the minimum payment and the creditors won&#8217;t take less than and threaten to garnish your wages?  In the past, I have done the opposite, make sure all creditors have at least their mins and let the utilities go since they don&#8217;t shut you off right away.</p>
<p>I can see the lure into filing bankruptcy in order to keep from the embarrassment of having wages seized, especially if you work in the dept that handles that.  I would be mortified if a wage garnishment came across my co-workers desk for me.  My company isn&#8217;t too keen on finance people with bad credit and I could possibly lose my job if that was to happen to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Feeling Like You Are Bankrupt, Is Different Than Actually Being Bankrupt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feeling Like You Are Bankrupt, Is Different Than Actually Being Bankrupt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] thoughts. I think that people who knowingly run up debt with no intention of paying it, and file bankruptcy are creeps. This does not seem to describe you sir.  I think you have done what most have done, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thoughts. I think that people who knowingly run up debt with no intention of paying it, and file bankruptcy are creeps. This does not seem to describe you sir.  I think you have done what most have done, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Today is Enemy of Debt's 2 Year Anniversary!</title>
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		<description>[...] Bankruptcy – The Morning After Pill of Personal Finance &#8211; Bankruptcy is seen as a savior instead of a last resort. these days the last resort is just deciding you don&#8217;t want to pay back the money you owe. JULY 2008 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brad Chaffee</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2008/07/bankruptcy-the-morning-after-pill-of-personal-finance/#comment-1877</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Chaffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ari,

Thanks for visiting and thank you for taking the time to comment.  Sorry to hear that you had to go through such a painful process but it sounds like you are now on the right track.  I may not have made it clear enough in my blog but when I wrote it I was really referring to people that used it like some people use morning after pills, filing for bankruptcy multiple times and not really seeing the need to make better decisions.  I think that was a direct result of being able to file for bankruptcy so easily at one point.  I personally know people who have filed three and four times in their life, and I have not ever heard anything from them that would suggest they are remorseful for leaving someone else to take the hit financially.  I was also mainly referring to the fact that some people really do not need to file bankruptcy, but instead of pay their debt off, they choose to take the bankruptcy option.  For those people bankruptcy is easier than paying off the debt, and that is why they choose it.  I do believe that bankruptcy is sometimes the only way out but I must add that I also feel that just because someone files bankruptcy doesn&#039;t mean they can&#039;t pay the bills at a later time when they have corrected their situation.  Dave Ramsey did that on millions from his bankruptcy and I just think that is AWESOME!  Good luck with your new found path and I wish you the best!

Thanks again for sharing your experience and I hope you continue to read EOD.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ari,</p>
<p>Thanks for visiting and thank you for taking the time to comment.  Sorry to hear that you had to go through such a painful process but it sounds like you are now on the right track.  I may not have made it clear enough in my blog but when I wrote it I was really referring to people that used it like some people use morning after pills, filing for bankruptcy multiple times and not really seeing the need to make better decisions.  I think that was a direct result of being able to file for bankruptcy so easily at one point.  I personally know people who have filed three and four times in their life, and I have not ever heard anything from them that would suggest they are remorseful for leaving someone else to take the hit financially.  I was also mainly referring to the fact that some people really do not need to file bankruptcy, but instead of pay their debt off, they choose to take the bankruptcy option.  For those people bankruptcy is easier than paying off the debt, and that is why they choose it.  I do believe that bankruptcy is sometimes the only way out but I must add that I also feel that just because someone files bankruptcy doesn&#8217;t mean they can&#8217;t pay the bills at a later time when they have corrected their situation.  Dave Ramsey did that on millions from his bankruptcy and I just think that is AWESOME!  Good luck with your new found path and I wish you the best!</p>
<p>Thanks again for sharing your experience and I hope you continue to read EOD.  <img src='http://www.enemyofdebt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While looking at your site I was interested to see your take on bankruptcy. Spot on, it is painful just been there. From my limited perspective I must say it was no morning after pill as you referred to it. It was a long painful process that made us really know our own business. With as out of touch as we were with our finances I must say it was a wake up call that shook us out of our complacency. We have taken on dependent family members and are now raising our granddaughter...yes, financially draining but a moral imperative for us as well. Are we at fault?...well yes, if not for our stupidity and our actions then we would not have been there.We were hugely overwhelmed and we are not off the hook, we are paying back taxes etc. Thank you for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While looking at your site I was interested to see your take on bankruptcy. Spot on, it is painful just been there. From my limited perspective I must say it was no morning after pill as you referred to it. It was a long painful process that made us really know our own business. With as out of touch as we were with our finances I must say it was a wake up call that shook us out of our complacency. We have taken on dependent family members and are now raising our granddaughter&#8230;yes, financially draining but a moral imperative for us as well. Are we at fault?&#8230;well yes, if not for our stupidity and our actions then we would not have been there.We were hugely overwhelmed and we are not off the hook, we are paying back taxes etc. Thank you for your time.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Chaffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Chaffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God for FPU right?  

I am so glad I had people in my life that were able to get through to me about why bankruptcy was a bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God for FPU right?  </p>
<p>I am so glad I had people in my life that were able to get through to me about why bankruptcy was a bad idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Melinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I hear an AMEN!  AMEN BROTHER!
Having just read Maxed Out, I will say that his sources show that 95% of all bankruptcies are filed by people who are truly broke.  But how did they get that way?  How can you be broke when you make $70K annually?  

We were among those, making well above the average household income, but on the edge of that cliff that was built out of greed, insatiable appetites for new toys, wanting it all now, and not wanting to build up our foundation first.

We were poised to jump into that rocky ravine that is bankruptcy, then we found FPU.  It pulled us back, gave us a new way to look at things, allowed us to reorganize our priorities and the way we spent.

While we are still &quot;broke&quot; right now, we are able to pay for everything we NEED to in a month and are slowly plugging away at our debt without incurring any new debt.

It is hard, but it is working, and we can see the light at the end of the tunnel, and it&#039;s not 10 years away like it would be with a bankruptcy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I hear an AMEN!  AMEN BROTHER!<br />
Having just read Maxed Out, I will say that his sources show that 95% of all bankruptcies are filed by people who are truly broke.  But how did they get that way?  How can you be broke when you make $70K annually?  </p>
<p>We were among those, making well above the average household income, but on the edge of that cliff that was built out of greed, insatiable appetites for new toys, wanting it all now, and not wanting to build up our foundation first.</p>
<p>We were poised to jump into that rocky ravine that is bankruptcy, then we found FPU.  It pulled us back, gave us a new way to look at things, allowed us to reorganize our priorities and the way we spent.</p>
<p>While we are still &#8220;broke&#8221; right now, we are able to pay for everything we NEED to in a month and are slowly plugging away at our debt without incurring any new debt.</p>
<p>It is hard, but it is working, and we can see the light at the end of the tunnel, and it&#8217;s not 10 years away like it would be with a bankruptcy.</p>
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