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		<title>By: Brad Chaffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Chaffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post might be old but the concept is still very much alive at least at my house! :D

Thanks for leaving such a great comment. I like what you and your family has done and I love how the focus is on family rather than who got the best or the most gifts. I really have a problem with what Christmas has become in the states. They&#039;re already talking about Black Friday and November has yet to begin!! It drives me crazy! 

sadly, I think the present buying has become more about the person buying the gift rather than the person receiving the gift. I remember reading an article earlier this year about Mother&#039;s Day that claimed people in one country loved their mothers more because they spent more on them for Mother&#039;s Day. That is just sick if you ask me! I bet the same mindset is alive and well during Christmas. We generally buy for our parents and the kids in the family and never plan to spend thousands on Christmas no matter how wealthy we become down the road. 

Thanks for stopping by! :D</description>
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<p>Thanks for leaving such a great comment. I like what you and your family has done and I love how the focus is on family rather than who got the best or the most gifts. I really have a problem with what Christmas has become in the states. They&#8217;re already talking about Black Friday and November has yet to begin!! It drives me crazy! </p>
<p>sadly, I think the present buying has become more about the person buying the gift rather than the person receiving the gift. I remember reading an article earlier this year about Mother&#8217;s Day that claimed people in one country loved their mothers more because they spent more on them for Mother&#8217;s Day. That is just sick if you ask me! I bet the same mindset is alive and well during Christmas. We generally buy for our parents and the kids in the family and never plan to spend thousands on Christmas no matter how wealthy we become down the road. </p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by! <img src='http://www.enemyofdebt.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael J MacMahon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael J MacMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, I&#039;ve only just found this thread, which you started a couple of years ago. Thus my comment comes a long time after most of the others.

Your challenge is a great idea; so many people get into debt at Christmas and, as many of your readers have said, Christmas comes every year; thus it’s not an emergency and certainly not an unforeseen one.

I’d never thought of it in this “debt-free Christmas” way but my kids and I decided a few years ago that having fun at Christmas did not depend on spending loads of money. We knew that gift buying is a large part of the Christmas budget; in fact when my girls were small their mother and I spent “loadsa money” on their gifts every year. Now that the girls are older (in their 20s) and wiser, they know as well as I do that spending big bucks on gifts is not the way to go. 

So we adopted an idea that I got from my friend Jenny (she was the text editor of my book “Back to the Black: how to become debt-free and stay that way”, so she knows about thrifty living) Her idea: to put a cash limit per person on gift spending. 

That first year, we set a spending limit of £10 (about $15) per person. Guess what? It was such a lot of fun, and produced such a lot of creativity, that the following year we cut the limit to £5 per person: “the £5 challenge”. 

Sometimes we make gifts; or we recycle unwanted gifts from the previous Xmas, which of course counts as zero spend, or we buy from charity shops or the “pound-stores” that have become so widespread through this recession. And the bonus: if you give somebody a gift that they don’t need or don’t want, it doesn’t matter, because it cost peanuts. 

This will be the fifth year of our £5 challenge and I still treasure some of those cheapie gifts that I got three or four years ago!

For some time my girls have spent Christmas Day with my (ex-)wife and they come to me on the 26th. That’s called Boxing Day here in the UK (and in Canada and Australia too, I believe). So, because they have a second Christmas on Boxing Day, they started calling it “Boxmas”. Then, because of the £5 challenge, it became “Budget Boxmas”. I cook us a great meal (well, we think it’s great anyway) and we sing our favourite songs, play silly games, and have a wonderful time without spending a shedload of cash.

Your thread has clearly produced a large following of people who want to have a debt-free Christmas; maybe our gift spending limit would be one way to help them achieve it.

Financial guru Alvin Hall (you probably know of him, as he’s American but he’s high-profile on British TV) is also very aware of the debt problems that can be caused by excessive Christmas gift buying. In a UK TV programme, he interviewed a couple who had a combined income of about £70,000 (over $100,000) but were deep in debt; at the time I think they were about £60,000 “in the red”.  He found that part of the problem was that they spent thousands on Christmas gifts every year; not just for family and friends, but even for neighbours too; they’d start buying in October. 

So Hall filmed private interviews with the couple’s sons and asked “what’s the best thing about Christmas?” Their answers included going to church on Christmas Night; Christmas dinner; being with family, singing Christmas carols.

“So what about all the gifts your mum gives you?”

“Well, they’re nice too.”

Then in January he interviewed some of the friends and neighbours who’d received gifts from the generous couple, and asked if they could remember what they’d received. Nobody could remember. 

Needless to say, Alvin filmed those interviews too and played them all back to the heavily-indebted couple. You might call that a low blow, or a cheap shot as I think you say over there in the States, but the message got home. Whether they changed their behaviour long-term, I don’t know; but it surely impressed me.

Finally: one of my girls is now a qualified doctor and earns a good salary, so she doesn’t really NEED to be thrifty, but that doesn’t matter; she doesn’t want to change what has become a virtuous circle. So for me and my girls the £5 challenge has been the recipe for not only a debt-free Christmas but a fun Christmas too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, I&#8217;ve only just found this thread, which you started a couple of years ago. Thus my comment comes a long time after most of the others.</p>
<p>Your challenge is a great idea; so many people get into debt at Christmas and, as many of your readers have said, Christmas comes every year; thus it’s not an emergency and certainly not an unforeseen one.</p>
<p>I’d never thought of it in this “debt-free Christmas” way but my kids and I decided a few years ago that having fun at Christmas did not depend on spending loads of money. We knew that gift buying is a large part of the Christmas budget; in fact when my girls were small their mother and I spent “loadsa money” on their gifts every year. Now that the girls are older (in their 20s) and wiser, they know as well as I do that spending big bucks on gifts is not the way to go. </p>
<p>So we adopted an idea that I got from my friend Jenny (she was the text editor of my book “Back to the Black: how to become debt-free and stay that way”, so she knows about thrifty living) Her idea: to put a cash limit per person on gift spending. </p>
<p>That first year, we set a spending limit of £10 (about $15) per person. Guess what? It was such a lot of fun, and produced such a lot of creativity, that the following year we cut the limit to £5 per person: “the £5 challenge”. </p>
<p>Sometimes we make gifts; or we recycle unwanted gifts from the previous Xmas, which of course counts as zero spend, or we buy from charity shops or the “pound-stores” that have become so widespread through this recession. And the bonus: if you give somebody a gift that they don’t need or don’t want, it doesn’t matter, because it cost peanuts. </p>
<p>This will be the fifth year of our £5 challenge and I still treasure some of those cheapie gifts that I got three or four years ago!</p>
<p>For some time my girls have spent Christmas Day with my (ex-)wife and they come to me on the 26th. That’s called Boxing Day here in the UK (and in Canada and Australia too, I believe). So, because they have a second Christmas on Boxing Day, they started calling it “Boxmas”. Then, because of the £5 challenge, it became “Budget Boxmas”. I cook us a great meal (well, we think it’s great anyway) and we sing our favourite songs, play silly games, and have a wonderful time without spending a shedload of cash.</p>
<p>Your thread has clearly produced a large following of people who want to have a debt-free Christmas; maybe our gift spending limit would be one way to help them achieve it.</p>
<p>Financial guru Alvin Hall (you probably know of him, as he’s American but he’s high-profile on British TV) is also very aware of the debt problems that can be caused by excessive Christmas gift buying. In a UK TV programme, he interviewed a couple who had a combined income of about £70,000 (over $100,000) but were deep in debt; at the time I think they were about £60,000 “in the red”.  He found that part of the problem was that they spent thousands on Christmas gifts every year; not just for family and friends, but even for neighbours too; they’d start buying in October. </p>
<p>So Hall filmed private interviews with the couple’s sons and asked “what’s the best thing about Christmas?” Their answers included going to church on Christmas Night; Christmas dinner; being with family, singing Christmas carols.</p>
<p>“So what about all the gifts your mum gives you?”</p>
<p>“Well, they’re nice too.”</p>
<p>Then in January he interviewed some of the friends and neighbours who’d received gifts from the generous couple, and asked if they could remember what they’d received. Nobody could remember. </p>
<p>Needless to say, Alvin filmed those interviews too and played them all back to the heavily-indebted couple. You might call that a low blow, or a cheap shot as I think you say over there in the States, but the message got home. Whether they changed their behaviour long-term, I don’t know; but it surely impressed me.</p>
<p>Finally: one of my girls is now a qualified doctor and earns a good salary, so she doesn’t really NEED to be thrifty, but that doesn’t matter; she doesn’t want to change what has become a virtuous circle. So for me and my girls the £5 challenge has been the recipe for not only a debt-free Christmas but a fun Christmas too.</p>
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		<title>By: Christmas is Coming, Will You Be Ready? &#124; Enemy of Debt: Where Behavior Meets Reality</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2009/08/have-you-ever-had-a-debt-free-christmas-and-will-you-accept-my-challenge/#comment-13200</link>
		<dc:creator>Christmas is Coming, Will You Be Ready? &#124; Enemy of Debt: Where Behavior Meets Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 21:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to think ahead, especially when it comes to Christmas. In 2009, I challenged all of you to have a Debt free Christmas by preparing for it early instead of last minute. Today&#8217;s post comes from Tyson Morgan and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Guest Post At My Super-Charged Life: A Debt Free Manifesto &#124; Enemy of Debt: Where Behavior Meets Reality</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2009/08/have-you-ever-had-a-debt-free-christmas-and-will-you-accept-my-challenge/#comment-10096</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest Post At My Super-Charged Life: A Debt Free Manifesto &#124; Enemy of Debt: Where Behavior Meets Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Have You Ever Had A DEBT FREE Christmas, And Will You Accept My Challenge? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: My Weekly Roundup &#8211; &#8220;Playing Catch Up&#8221; Edition &#124; Enemy of Debt: Where Behavior Meets Reality</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2009/08/have-you-ever-had-a-debt-free-christmas-and-will-you-accept-my-challenge/#comment-10094</link>
		<dc:creator>My Weekly Roundup &#8211; &#8220;Playing Catch Up&#8221; Edition &#124; Enemy of Debt: Where Behavior Meets Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] How To Set Your Christmas Budget by Craig at ChristianPF. Personally I think if you have not already done this it might be a little late, but not too late for next year. Craig offers a practical guide to setting up your budget. Also don&#8217;t forget to check out my Christmas Challenge. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: No Restaurants in November Challenge &#124; Enemy of Debt: Where Behavior Meets Reality</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2009/08/have-you-ever-had-a-debt-free-christmas-and-will-you-accept-my-challenge/#comment-10041</link>
		<dc:creator>No Restaurants in November Challenge &#124; Enemy of Debt: Where Behavior Meets Reality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 21:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s time for another Enemy of Debt Challenge! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2009/08/have-you-ever-had-a-debt-free-christmas-and-will-you-accept-my-challenge/#comment-8385</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been buying a lot of used books in recent years for Christmas.  If you choose only good condition books, your 10 year-old doesn&#039;t know the difference and is thrilled at the mountain of gifts.   
 
Here is a new peppy 1-minute video I made giving people advice on the responsible use of debit, ATM and credit cards. 
 
&quot;Card Tricks Revealed:  How Not To Burn Money&quot;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKRHiA0tYCc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKRHiA0tYCc&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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<p>Here is a new peppy 1-minute video I made giving people advice on the responsible use of debit, ATM and credit cards.</p>
<p>&#8220;Card Tricks Revealed:  How Not To Burn Money&#8221;<br />
  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKRHiA0tYCc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKRHiA0tYCc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Debt Free 2010 Christmas &#124; April Update</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2009/08/have-you-ever-had-a-debt-free-christmas-and-will-you-accept-my-challenge/#comment-7570</link>
		<dc:creator>Debt Free 2010 Christmas &#124; April Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] would like to thank Brad from Enemy of Debt for writing the original Debt Free Christmas Challenge post last year. It helped to remind me of the need to budget for Christmas. Good luck everyone. I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brad And J&#8217;s 1st Annual Christmas Stimulus 2009</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2009/08/have-you-ever-had-a-debt-free-christmas-and-will-you-accept-my-challenge/#comment-5776</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad And J&#8217;s 1st Annual Christmas Stimulus 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of this article giving me at least 2 financial goals you wish to accomplish in 2010. Make your financial resolutions now, and give yourself a head start in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 19:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For many years now I&#039;ve kept an Excel file with a page for each year. One column each for Name, gift ideas, what I actually bought, and the cost.  After Christmas I copy the names and unused ideas onto a new page as a starting point for the next year. Most times a gift idea not used one year is still relevant the next year (except with kids). This way I&#039;m ready to start picking up things up as I find them during the year on sale.  I try to be finished my shopping by October each year simply because I hate shopping but hate shopping with crowds even more. 
Now Christmas shopping is a non-event. Everything is bought early, wrapped at leisure, and paid for painlessly a little at a time over the entire year. The only holiday shopping left to do in December is food and entertaining related. Don&#039;t forget to include extra funds for groceries and travel in your budget! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For many years now I&#39;ve kept an Excel file with a page for each year. One column each for Name, gift ideas, what I actually bought, and the cost.  After Christmas I copy the names and unused ideas onto a new page as a starting point for the next year. Most times a gift idea not used one year is still relevant the next year (except with kids). This way I&#39;m ready to start picking up things up as I find them during the year on sale.  I try to be finished my shopping by October each year simply because I hate shopping but hate shopping with crowds even more.<br />
Now Christmas shopping is a non-event. Everything is bought early, wrapped at leisure, and paid for painlessly a little at a time over the entire year. The only holiday shopping left to do in December is food and entertaining related. Don&#39;t forget to include extra funds for groceries and travel in your budget!</p>
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		<title>By: Debt Free Christmas 2010 &#124; DeliverAwayDebt.com</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2009/08/have-you-ever-had-a-debt-free-christmas-and-will-you-accept-my-challenge/#comment-4122</link>
		<dc:creator>Debt Free Christmas 2010 &#124; DeliverAwayDebt.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 16:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s GREAT!!! Brad at Enemy of Debt wrote a wonderful article about the subject of having a Debt Free Christmas, he&#8217;s been an insperation to many people and I recommend you take a few minutes to read [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2009/08/have-you-ever-had-a-debt-free-christmas-and-will-you-accept-my-challenge/#comment-3758</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad,
I DID IT! I had a debt free Christmas… my first in my adult life. On top of that, I also applied almost $800 to my existing credit card debt in December. I know that your challenge to have a debt free Christmas helped me to avoid any backward steps this month and kept me on track for my goal of having my VISA paid off by June 2010. Thanks for the inspiration.
David in Portland, Oregon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,<br />
I DID IT! I had a debt free Christmas… my first in my adult life. On top of that, I also applied almost $800 to my existing credit card debt in December. I know that your challenge to have a debt free Christmas helped me to avoid any backward steps this month and kept me on track for my goal of having my VISA paid off by June 2010. Thanks for the inspiration.<br />
David in Portland, Oregon</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2009/08/have-you-ever-had-a-debt-free-christmas-and-will-you-accept-my-challenge/#comment-3591</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 23:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our two financial goals for 2010:

1- Reduce our family debt by $12000
2- Not incur any MORE debt!</description>
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<p>1- Reduce our family debt by $12000<br />
2- Not incur any MORE debt!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.enemyofdebt.com/2009/08/have-you-ever-had-a-debt-free-christmas-and-will-you-accept-my-challenge/#comment-3507</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of our goals is to try and pay off a new furnace we had to have installed this year (carbon monoxide leak...yikes).  The other goal is to continue to build our savings account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of our goals is to try and pay off a new furnace we had to have installed this year (carbon monoxide leak&#8230;yikes).  The other goal is to continue to build our savings account.</p>
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		<title>By: Bo Palinic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bo Palinic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot, Brad, for your inspirational site.  It&#039;s inspired me, and I&#039;m sure it&#039;s been inspirational to many others.  My two main financial goals for 2010:  (1) Pay off and close my last credit card ($5,800); and save at least $18,000 in my emergency fund.  Best wishes for the New Year to  you and your family.  Best, Bo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot, Brad, for your inspirational site.  It&#8217;s inspired me, and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s been inspirational to many others.  My two main financial goals for 2010:  (1) Pay off and close my last credit card ($5,800); and save at least $18,000 in my emergency fund.  Best wishes for the New Year to  you and your family.  Best, Bo.</p>
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