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  1. Edie

    I don’t truly know why some people detest Dave Ramsey so much. I used to read this one particular financial blog until about 2 weeks ago. The woman who write it hates DR’s principles, but I couldn’t get out of her WHY, except the fact she loves her CC’s.

    Well in light of what is happening this week with the CC industry, maybe she’ll change her mind.

    Perhaps people do not like his truthful and matter of fact way of presenting his ideas. For me, I like the no bull sensibility.

  2. Great overview of Dave and his principles. I can understand constructive criticism and to be fair no one is perfect.

    I’ve heard Dave slip up or answer a question too simply. However, when you are in the constant spotlight like he is it is bound to happen. People like to grab onto these draw conclusion that simply aren’t there on the whole.

    You know Dave doesn’t care. He’d just laugh it off and go back to helping another million people who are struggling. It’s what he does.

    Baker @ ManVsDebt´s last blog post..67 Ways NOT To Sell A Car

  3. Tam Lieb

    I’ve listened to Mr. Ramsey for about a year now and have found his advice very helpful. I admit to being a little put off by some religious and political views however these pale in importance to his real message of educating the layperson in personal finance.

  4. @Tam- I think that when someone can put aside small differences in order to get the bigger, more important message that is a wonderful thing. I have had a few friends refuse to read Dave’s book simply because he is a Christian, which is unfortunate. Thanks for your comment!

    @Baker- You are right, constructive criticism is just fine. Someone does not have to agree with everything Dave teaches, but to attack him simply because you do not agree, is where the line should be. I agree that people can grab one or two goof ups and act like it represents his entire plan. I lead FPU at my church and see the real benefit of how people learn how to think differently about money. Thanks for stopping by Baker! Oh and congratulations on getting $1200 for a car with more than 200,000 miles on it. That is awesome!

    @Edie- I have found that to be the case more often than not too! Also, I think people are offended by his Christian beliefs, which is where most of his beliefs about money are rooted in. I HATE credit cards but I believe that some people who do not carry a balance can still do Dave’s plan effectively, I just don’t understand the point of taking that risk when there are other options available. I think too many people LIE about the fact that they do not carry a balance though. It just sounds better to them to say that. I am with you 100% about Dave’s matter of fact delivery! I would rather someone give me the truth as painful as it may be, no matter how much it might hurt my feelings. To me fixing the problem takes priority over my feelings any day! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

  5. I write about Dave Ramsey a lot on my site, and as such I’ve heard all of the arguments against his teaching. Usually they boil down to a few basic arguments:

    1. He’s bad at math: They usually say that some points of his math, or the assumptions that he makes (like the returns you can expect on your investments) are too simplistic or unrealistic. On some points I might agree to a point. I do think that his assumptions about returns on investing can be a bit optimistic at times.
    2. Credit cards: Some people love credit cards, and as such think Ramsey is the devil. Having seen what credit can do to people’s lives, I can understand why Ramsey suggests staying away. I’m not as hardline as Ramsey on this, but I fully understand the benefits and rewards of cards – unlike a lot of people who are just getting into his program.
    3. His advice is too simplistic: To me, this is silly because I think one of the reasons why his advice works so well for so many is that it is simplified and easy to follow. Is some of his investing advice and other advice too simplified? Maybe, but for his audience i think it’s probably about right.

    I guess for me it all comes down to this: Dave Ramsey has shown amazing results in helping a lot of people to turn their lives around and get their finances straight. I have seen it first hand through the FPU class that my wife and I helped to facilitate at our church. Do I agree with absolutely everything that he says? No, probably not. Do I see the amazing value in his classes, books and radio show? Yes. I say take what you can from the class, and if something offends you (are you really that sensitive?) or doesn’t seem right, leave it by the wayside and do your own research for a better way. You may not find it.

    As far as Anne’s comment on Dave worshipping cash and not being a Christian – have you actually listened to his show for more than 10 minutes? Do you really think anyone who listens to or plays rock music can’t be saved? If so, I’m in big trouble. :) I also have been listening to Dave for a long time and have never heard a foul word come out of his mouth. In any event, God bless you Anne, I hope you find the program you’re looking for!

  6. Anne I just sent you an email in love. I hope it reaches you the way it was intended to.

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